The Red Pill
A Feminist's Journey Into the Men's Rights Movement

Jaye Bird Productions
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James

This film portrays itself as a balanced documentary, however, it is thinly veiled promotional material for the harmful and empirically incorrect positions of the "men's rights movement". Jaye presents highly selected arguments from misogynistic writers and web personalities without ...Read more

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Kaylin

This is good.

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Megan

Paul Elam has issues alright, he's a deadbeat dad. His daughter connected with him as an adult and shortly found herself paying his bills for him. If you want to fork out 118 minutes of your time because you need to prove to yourself that you are open-minded and can see "the world from the ...Read more

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Laura

This film is worth watching. Are there anecdote fallacies? Yeah, some. Still some men do end up having bad things done to them by bad women, like some women end up having bad things done to them by bad men. And we can refer to bad people without connecting badness to all women or men.

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Leslie

Very worthwhile watching with an open mind. Some of the speakers are absolutely infuriating - but you can pace yourself and watch in small bursts, if necessary! I admire the director for grappling with all sides of these issues so honestly. There is something here to make any viewer, on any ...Read more

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p

Totally bizzare. Opens with a bunch of articles seemingly from MRA sites on how it's ok if not necessary to be violent to women, then pivots to how right MRAs are right about everything, but never revisits these articles. It talks about how men are killed in war, never who is doing the ...Read more

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Joe

It was strange to start the documentary with that and never address it, since only one article was brought back up (the "Smash a Violent Bitch" one) here's the others:

"When is it OK to Punch Your Wife?" Read more

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Troy

the level of whiteness in this documentary is unconscionable. literally every person is white.

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Laura

You missed the guy who had to pay child support because the mother listed him as the father on some government paperwork, the mother was not his wife, dna proved that he was not related to the child, but that made no difference to the court. The father looked African-American to ...Read more

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Jayden

@Troy oh yes, dismiss the information, not with rational thought or statistics but instead dismiss it on the basis the color of their skin. When people talk about how racism is still a problem within our society I look to you as a prime example of this disgusting practice.

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Isha

sorry dog but you don't have a clue what racism is.

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Zoe

Where did he say that "this is inaccurate because everyone is white"? I don't see it. However, when around 60% of the population is white, but 100% of the people within a documentary are white, it's a valid thing to point out. What does it say about the Men's Rights movement? Does it cater ...Read more

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Joe

"What does it say about the Men's Rights movement?" a lot of the feminist in this are also white. I think it's because issues of race are considered to be a more pressing matter. Even historically you see more race equality than gender equality (eg black president before a female).

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Sofya

Profoundly inept and disingenuous in every possible way.

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Jake

Would you mind giving examples of this ineptitude and disingenuous quality? I am curious to learn what criticisms people have of this movie, as I have found it so powerful I am inclined to share it with my campus. Do you have any particular criticisms I should be ready for when I do so?

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Zoe

Some comic relief/post-red-pill-recommended viewing: "No Men Beyond This Point" - also on Kanopy, a very tongue and cheek mockumentary to lighten things up ;)

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Arif

I second this. While I would never wish to take away from The Red Pill, having taken Zoe up on her suggestion, I am in agreement. If you feel like you need to take a break from the more intense representations of truth and honesty, "No Men Beyond This Point" will re-energize your emotional ...Read more

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Alex

I am a man and I work with men. This film is absurd. It completely fails to grasp broad social and cultural contexts by framing stats in a simple minded way. This hurts men by pandering to a series of simplified misunderstandings.

Women don't die at work? Up until the 1990s we have ...Read more

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Jake

I notice that in discussing the majority of these issues, you are merely reframing the implications of the work rather than opposing the statistic correctly. Fred Hayward discusses this explicitly when he talks about men and women both being pulled in unhealthy directions. Even if I granted ...Read more

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Christopher

You sound like the people protesting the MRAs at the start . Great Doc.

The more the mobs attempts to curb free speech the more publicity this documentary will get and that can only be a good thing.

I was interested in the male feminists and their seething hatred of other men, ...Read more

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Alex

Not a free speech issue. This is an issue of facts. The statistics overwhelmingly show who the victims of cultural systems are. Not only that but the only support available for men who are victims of crimes such as rape come from organizations and structures that are run with a feminist ...Read more

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Christopher

I appreciate your response.
It is a free speech issue when organizations try to curb the screening of a film.
The key is to stop making this a gendered issue both men and women experience violence and discrimination {family law courts }.
Statistics are not the gospel truth ...Read more

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Alex

Thank you for taking the time Chris. And I frankly agree with you that stopping the screenings of this film is not a good way to go. Largely because it's screening is an act of self-defeat - the quality of argument is both poor and readily available online.
I also agree that statistics ...Read more

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Christopher

Thanks for the list will give them a read. I see your point with the articles I provided, however I don’t agree the film was trying to stoke the flames of hate and the fact that MRAs do very little isn’t lost on me as they are a minority. Feminism is mainstream and many men agree or at least ...Read more

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Alex

Well, this is a good conversation. Thanks for taking the time to read the long replies, Chris. We need more dialogue and less division. There is definitely a fair share of idiocy, stereotyping and accusations on both sides of the camp. I'd be in remiss if I didn't say that feminism is not a ...Read more

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Christopher

thanks mate enjoyed it too

Update: For anyone interested " REFERENCES EXAMINING ASSAULTS BY WOMEN ON THEIR SPOUSES OR MALE PARTNERS:
AN ANNOTATED BIBLIOGRAPHY"

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Lachlan

Spoken like a true feminist. Try removing your oppression-coloured glasses and looking at things without the biased feminist lens.

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Alex

There's a consistency to the way any critique of this MRA subgroups goes, and it looks a lot like what you've just posted Lachlan. Try using facts. The process of getting an argument together might actually teach you something. You are at Uni after all.

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Glen

Tremendously well done. A wonderful perspective into the actual men's rights movement and not the extremist version so often flaunted by the feminist driven media. If only more people would watch this with a truly critical mind. There are some use of outdated statistics, yet i feel they are ...Read more

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Lauren

A riveting look at a topic that is not discussed often. It was really eye-opening to learn about some of the issues facing men that are swept under the rug in society. Especially the idea that men are expendable, the lack of support for male victims of domestic violence and the societal ...Read more

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Virginia

Lauren-

RE your comment: "....the societal pressures to live up to gender roles on both sides.....to fight injustice harming both genders and tearing down gender stereotypes for everyone."
YES YES!!! That is exactly what feminists do, what feminism is about! As a lifelong ...Read more

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Lauren

Hi Virginia,

Thanks for your thoughtful response. It sounds like you are doing a lot of important work. I totally agree on your points about harmful gender stereotypes as well as the cycle of abuse. Thanks very much for the recommendations and inspiring comments.

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Tom

It's good to hear different sides in a single documentary. Great visuals and cinematography. Also loved the side documentaries. Fantastic work Cassie!

Anna avatar
Anna

Thought-provoking documentary exploring the topics often silenced by the media. I appreciated the filmmaker, Cassie Jaye's, efforts to maintain an honest and objective look at the Men's Rights Movement by providing viewers opinions from both sides, as well as intermittent video diary entries ...Read more

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